Nothing special just food for thoughts maybe


Judging from the camo this is the same Tiger....




Think you know what is compared

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Hallo Hartmut,
da bin ich jetzt doch irritiert ... bisher war ich der Meinung, dieses Bild

zeigt den Tiger noch mit "Rest-Winter-Anstrich" kurz nach den Kämpfen um Kharkov im März 1943 - wenn es sich tatsächlich um #424 handelt, hatte er da einen Blenden-Durchschuß und ist auf diesem Bild auf dem Weg zur Instandsetzung ... auf jeden Fall hat er noch zumindest einseitig Nebeltöpfe am Turm - das Bild stammt vermutlich vom März/April 1943 und er hat schon die Halterung für die Notek-Lampe vorn am Bug ...
Beim zweiten Bild vom noch nicht sicher identifizierten Tiger fehlt die Notek-Halterung - der deutliche Tarnanstrich müßte von April/Mai stammen.



Nach meiner Ansicht zeigen die beiden Bilder eher nicht die gleichen Tiger ... (?)
... es bleibt spannend ...
Gruß Michael

Dieser Beitrag wurde schon 1 mal editiert, zum letzten mal von Michael Wolf am 11.06.2013 11:26.

Some updates on "411". This old one isn't in the gallery yet;



The following photos are from NARA and are not in the gallery.

The turret number is legible in these;



These are obvious matches to scenes already in the gallery;



Mantlet damage matches a gallery photo;



The wire from the removed smoke pots is a match here;



The paint on the gun matches here; we can also match up crewmen.



David

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Zitat:

Original von David Byrden Some updates on "411". This old one isn't in the gallery yet; The following photos are from NARA and are not in the gallery. The turret number is legible in these; David

Yes I miss the earliest 411 pic and thanks for the additions! ......updated

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I can´t find this pic in bigger resolution anymore........




where do we have it ?

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Thank you very much!

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Starting at 0:52 we see 405 does anyone know of this film at a higher resolution?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWRdUn7CDN8

Hi Rob,

This clip is from Die Deutsche Wochenschau Nr. 655. John Winner gave us this link some time ago, which is slightly better resolution.

https://archive.org/details/1943-03-24-D...Wochenschau-655

Maybe its possible to buy if anyone knows a good source for the Wochenschau films?

HTH,

Chris

405

Hi Chris, (& John) thanks for the link.
2 nice new of 405 during the Kharkov operation.

405

Good partial detail view, after it's repaint from overall grey.
Turret antennae visible.
I've seen pics of 411 circa Kharkov with the Feifel tubes secured in the same position.


What's sticking out of the centre smoke pot?



http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Panzer-Tiger...=item19efb0ad62

Whatever it is, it consists of a plain rectangular plate welded to a tube.

I'm more interested in what's sticking out of the rear-wall antenna storage tube. Is that a folded star antenna?

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405 again

Another photo, same source.



Chris

405 + ???

Currently on ebay.de.



together with this one which is probably also from LAH, seen before but not as sharp.



No connection with the seller.

Chris.

Links:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Panzer-...=item1c46d390fa
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Panzer-...=item1c46d39847

414

Sorry guys must have had a brain snap posting this to a new thread.http://www.tiif.de/thread.php?threadid=688&sid=
It should have been here.

Zitat:

Original von Rob Fraser This one is from Schhneider. TIGER IM KAMPF 111. In Tigers in Combat 2 the organigram for Feb 43 has 414 as a PZ111.

Not in the gallery.

Dieser Beitrag wurde schon 1 mal editiert, zum letzten mal von Rob Fraser am 28.01.2015 00:39.

411

This pic (from TIC II, page 113) is in the gallery unknowns.
The casting marks on the reinforced mantlet and lack of white wash on the loaders hatch along its top edge match a photo I've seen of 411 from a private collection.

411

From Facebook.



Chris

Any chance of an URL?

David

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Sorry, didn't save it and now can't re-find it. I'll email a copy.

Chris

Has anybody noticed the hulls of these two photos have similarities?

The mudguards have no outer flaps and are bent down; the left hand side skirt is bent down; there are spare tracks.

But the turrets are not the same. One of them has a flat mantlet, the other not. Unless there was a gun change, there would have to be a turret change.





Do we know the owner of the 1st one?

David

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What reason have we to believe that a 3rd company of LAH had any Tigers? Apart from Tigers in Combat, that is.

David

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