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Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie SS501 Tiger II
Yann JOUAULT

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07.03.2018 19:04 Forum: sSSPzAbt.501

I too wonder why these Kingtigers are often said to be 3.Kp as up to now I had not seen definite evidence that they are
As we have discussed offline already,at present you and I seem to agree that this one is most likely 334, so indeed 3.Kp...



...but it would be nice to know if the other one is also 3.Kp and if someone out there has more info and my share it ?

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie 1./ SS101 Tiger II
Yann JOUAULT

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RE: Stamm's Tiger B was 122? 09.05.2017 19:44 Forum: sSSPzAbt.101

Zitat:
Original von Herbert Ackermans
On Panzer Archiv a listing of Tiger Ausf. B dated 1 August 1944 gives Turmnummer 122 as the one commanded by Untersturmführer Fritz Stamm. Is that correct?

Panzer Archiv


Hi Herbert,
According to Werner Wendt, at the time (as of 1. Aug. 1944) Stamm was commanding the 1. Zu, (so his official mount had to be Tiger 111.
The above Tiger Ausf.B cannot be 111 or 113 as both were obviously lost elsewhere.
It is not 112 either as in the well-known WS clip (showing both 112 and 124 on the way to the front), 112 has a damaged front mudguard on the right hand side and this wreck does not.
Possibly Stamm may have used Tiger 114 logically, IF indeed 114 was available at the time - so this wreck may be 114...
Other candidates are 131, 132 and 134 which have yet to appear in photos.

Now PA listing for the 1.Kp / this period has a glaring error as they have Ostuf. Philipsen commanding the 1. Zug BUT Philipsen was KIA on 16 June 1944 on the road between Le Quesnay and Briquessard !!!

In August 1944, 122 was possibly commanded by Uscha. Salomon (this was the case in Normandy).

HTH
Yann

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie 1./ SS101 Tiger II
Yann JOUAULT

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04.05.2017 09:09 Forum: sSSPzAbt.101

Chris,
this is Fritz Stamm's Tiger KO'd near the D913 road during the attack toward Fontenay St Père on 26 Aug. 1944




YJ

Thema: Unidentified Tiger I Late Production
Yann JOUAULT

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24.01.2017 16:30 Forum: Tiger zuordnen

[quote]Original von Chris Brown
Currently on ebay.de. Presumably the electrified railway suggests a location in the west / Italy?

The lead Tiger has striking camo. Any thoughts?

No connection with the seller.

Chris.

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Interesting photo!

Just a few observations:

Obviously these Tigers are Lates, and I think they carry spare track links on the lower front plate and I don't recall seeing any in Italy (but maybe I missed them!).

France is also doubtful IMO as :
- SS101 Late Tigers did not travel by train there
- 503 Tigers no evidence of 503 Tiger Is with spare track on the front plate AFAIK
- SS102 : ...?????... (only 2 Tigers with spare tracks on the front plate have been found so far to the best of my knowledge, but who knows if there were more ?)

The camo schemes are indeed quite striking (save for the wheels that look like pain DG) which perhaps could fit with SS102 heavy camo style ?.........



YJ

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie SS101 TigerI
Yann JOUAULT

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11.01.2017 16:31 Forum: sSSPzAbt.101

Zitat:
Original von Mario Lippert
Thank you,sadly it´s only in french.


Hi Mario,
we're working on an English version.
Hopefully it will be published later this year.

Rgds
Yann

Thema: Unidentified Tiger II
Yann JOUAULT

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30.11.2016 20:06 Forum: Tiger zuordnen

Another (russian) source has it in the Sellow heights area :

http://waralbum.ru/


[URL]https://www.facebook.com/groups/Tigertracks/permalink/616704015169139/? comment_id=617107531795454¬if_t=group_comment_reply¬if_id=1480445581416606[
/URL]

I would agree with Mario that it is perhaps more likely to be an SS502 TII.

YJ

Thema: Unidentified Tiger II
Yann JOUAULT

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29.11.2016 20:44 Forum: Tiger zuordnen

Zitat:
Original von Yann JOUAULT
New to me :



from :
http://altyn73.livejournal.com/260944.html


New Tiger Ausf.B in Germany, as posted on ML today :

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2016/11...slide-WW99.html

Looks like it is the same tank :



YJ

Thema: Unidentified Tiger I Late Production
Yann JOUAULT

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28.07.2016 16:20 Forum: Tiger zuordnen

Michael

see this :

http://www.tiif.de/thread.php?threadid=65&page=2&sid=

Rgds
Yann

Thema: Unidentified Tiger I Late Production
Yann JOUAULT

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11.02.2016 21:31 Forum: Tiger zuordnen

Thanks to Jean-Léon Gantier, we can definitely put this one in the (503) 2./3.Kompanie Tiger I in Frankreich gallery now :



YJ

Thema: Ergänzung zur galerie 13./SS
Yann JOUAULT

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11.02.2016 20:42 Forum: 13./SS-Panzerregiment 1 LAH

I think this unidentified Tiger must be S05 :




YJ

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie SS101 TigerI
Yann JOUAULT

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31.01.2016 17:12 Forum: sSSPzAbt.101

Zitat:
Original von Hartmut von Holdt
Zitat:
Original von Yann JOUAULT

At present I must say it's a bit of a connundrum !
Perhaps that 2.Kp Tiger in the ditch (probable location is Mouen / Verson area) was the result of a turret/hull swap ?



The photo is of good quality but it dosn´t show us any remnants of any turret nummer. If 224 had a new turret when he was abondened, than it seems it was a turret without number? I don´t see a possibility for a turret without any number in that area. Normaly they had hands on the Tigers in the Abteilung only. In the late days of the war in france they had possibility to be mixed up with SS102, or with small chance with school Tigers from Paris.


To me it looks like the turret side may be completely covered with soot which is obscuring the number as well as the camouflage pattern. Or the paint was burnt off with the same result.
Either way I agree it is unlikely the turret didn't have any number originally.

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie SS101 TigerI
Yann JOUAULT

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31.01.2016 15:33 Forum: sSSPzAbt.101

I hope to get better images in a not too distant future.
I will reserve judgement for now.

At present I must say it's a bit of a connundrum !
Perhaps that 2.Kp Tiger in the ditch (probable location is Mouen / Verson area) was the result of a turret/hull swap ?

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie SS101 TigerI
Yann JOUAULT

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30.01.2016 22:08 Forum: sSSPzAbt.101

Zitat:
Original von Hartmut von Holdt
Any other left?


234
That's the one I had as a likely candidate
Sadly the 'Paris photo' does not make it clear
but there's hope...

Thema: Neues Bild
Yann JOUAULT

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09.01.2016 01:43 Forum: Tiger zuordnen

Zitat:
Original von Andreas Steiner
Danke! Gibt es hier noch vielleicht nähere Infos? Jahr, Land, Ort?


Tiger 324 of 3./s.SS-Panzerabteilung 101 in rue Bois Sabot in Dreux on the way to Normandy (so not in Normandy yet).
Photo most likely taken on 8 June, 1944



https://www.google.fr/maps/place/Dreux/@...372301,8z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x47e1551ee0688e79:0x40dc8d7053981f0

YJ

Thema: Unidentified Tiger I Late Production
Yann JOUAULT

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23.10.2015 14:46 Forum: Tiger zuordnen

Zitat:
Original von Mario Lippert
A Tigerwreck in a field near Compiégne.
Any idea´s?



The camo scheme appears quite light, so probably not SS102.
It seems there's a Pilze socket visible on the turret roof just in front of the right foot of the man sitting on the far right (that would make it a late Tiger if the hull is original) so probably not SS101.

If correct then we are left with the 503 option.

YJ

Thema: Ergänzung 2./3.Kompanie Tiger I in Frankreich
Yann JOUAULT

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14.08.2015 19:25 Forum: sPzAbt.503 FHH

Zitat:
Original von Allen Dail
Is it just bad quality of the pic or is it edited? The gun tube looks to be missing after the step in the barrel.
Nice find.
Allen


Yep. I 've known this pic for a while and spent some time studying it and I came to the same conclusion, ie. the barrel appears to have been severed.

When boosting the contrast in the pic the marks on the road become more visible and quite clearly part of those marks would not be seen if a full barrel was there.
No muzzle brake either.



1st and 4th RHS fenders and the outer flap of the right hand front mudguard are missing. Where have they gone in such a short time and why would they have been removed ?...
3rd RHS fender looks intact before crossing the Seine, but damaged later
Quite a few differences
I doubt it's 224.

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie SS101 TigerI
Yann JOUAULT

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24.06.2015 22:52 Forum: sSSPzAbt.101

Zitat:
Original von Hartmut von Holdt
It is btw in fact amazing what Mirko nailed and I didn´t noticed so far. AFAIK thi is the first photo of a Befehlswagen with installed long range mast and star antenna on top.

PS: I meant the 007/003


I guess you missed my post... Augenzwinkern

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie SS101 TigerI
Yann JOUAULT

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24.06.2015 13:58 Forum: sSSPzAbt.101

Zitat:
[i]

So, I'd like to compare this tank with the 504's Stab Tiger. Have we a large copy of this photo?



David


here's my take :



YJ

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie SS101 TigerI
Yann JOUAULT

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24.06.2015 00:02 Forum: sSSPzAbt.101

Zitat:
Original von Hartmut von Holdt
IIRC Yann was one day in that area and found a farmer who collected parts of that Tiger in his barn.
I didn´t copy the photos he made but I´ve heard he is around from time to time.



Hartmut,

there was no all steel wheel in M. Samson's collection (the farmer), only rubber lined wheels (all came from Tiger 314 so he told me)
But he did have the turret ring guard of Tiger 007.

PS : I don't think this new photo shows 007 of SS101 now.

Rgds
Yann

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie SS101 TigerI
Yann JOUAULT

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23.06.2015 23:30 Forum: sSSPzAbt.101

The more I look at this photo the more I doubt it could be 007.
After enhancing the contrast I seem to make out '003' and the size of the last two digits appear to be smaller than the first.
If correct this would be consistent with 504 numbering style in 1944 (why should the Stab Tigers numbers be any different than those of the other Tigers in the Battalion ?)




I haven't seen any large / clear photo of 504 Stab Tigers so can't make any further comments at this stage.

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie SS101 TigerI
Yann JOUAULT

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23.06.2015 14:50 Forum: sSSPzAbt.101

....the interesting feature is that the mast for the star aerial is fitted;
first time I see this !

It can't be 1943 as this Tiger has hull extensions with cut outs

Landscape could be Normandy...meaning it could well be 007 of SS101

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie SS102 44
Yann JOUAULT

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19.11.2013 01:13 Forum: sSSPzAbt.102/502

Mario thanks for posting this and making it clear it was 114 indeed. smile

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie SS102 44
Yann JOUAULT

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15.11.2013 11:06 Forum: sSSPzAbt.102/502

Great photo, thanks Evgeniy.
Nice to have an ID on that one at last.

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie SS102 44
Yann JOUAULT

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14.11.2013 21:35 Forum: sSSPzAbt.102/502

Zitat:
Original von Cédric Martinet
On the other and, Hartmut, it was a lot less common to have such a bar and tracks on the front plate of late Tigers, whereas it was common on mid ones... That's why I was puzzled.


Cédric,

spare track links were attached to the Tiger hulls at Unit level regardless of Tiger versions.
Most SS101 late Tigers carried track links on the front hull plate by means of a metal bar.
This was rarely seen on SS102, at least as far as the existing photo coverage goes. So far only 133 and the "Saumur Tiger" (probably 114) carried track links in such a fashion.

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie SS102 44
Yann JOUAULT

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14.11.2013 00:21 Forum: sSSPzAbt.102/502

It wasn't unusual for SS102 Tigers to have spare track links on the driver - radio op plate.
Take a look atTigers 132, 133, 211, 231... (see gallery).
Indeed 3 spare track links were attached by means of hooks on either side of the plate.
So it was likely the case with Tiger 91 too.

Salutations
YJ

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie SS101 TigerI
Yann JOUAULT

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30.08.2013 12:16 Forum: sSSPzAbt.101

Zitat:
Original von Hartmut von Holdt
Oh, 322.....thats a great find, thanks alot!

He has the lhs headlight in old position. That was seen only on 323 too IIRC.


Also 314 and 333 don't have a centered headlight on the front plate so presumably they too had the LHS headlight (or at least the mount for it)

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie SS101 TigerI
Yann JOUAULT

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30.08.2013 11:54 Forum: sSSPzAbt.101

I think I see Feifel bolts too.
And it has a (presumably) dark grey barrel.

Gallery size :

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie SS101 TigerI
Yann JOUAULT

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30.08.2013 09:31 Forum: sSSPzAbt.101

OK I can see them now.
Please ignore above message.

Yep 322 belongs in the SS101 gallery for sure !!
Looks like an early Mid (with mount for the toolbox on the rear plate + headlight on LHS of hull roof) so presumably one of the 10 Tigers delivered in October 1943

Thanks for the link
Great find

YJ

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie SS101 TigerI
Yann JOUAULT

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30.08.2013 09:23 Forum: sSSPzAbt.101

For some reason I can't access any of the auctions / larger photos.
All I get to see are thumbnails

Are you sure 322 is in there ?

We know there's 321 and 311 as some of these are known already.

Rgds
YJ

Thema: Ergänzung zur galerie 13./SS
Yann JOUAULT

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14.08.2013 10:58 Forum: 13./SS-Panzerregiment 1 LAH

Hi Evgeniy,

Funny you should mention that
I'm still not sure about the camo scheme, but one of the men seemed familiar and last night I went and checked a few refs.
It turns out he looks like Ustuf. Hans SORETZ (Zugführer 1./ SS102 - Tiger 121 in Normandy 1944) :



Couldn't find a "Fritz HITZ" in the SS102 personel list though.

Thema: Ergänzung zur galerie 13./SS
Yann JOUAULT

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13.08.2013 16:26 Forum: 13./SS-Panzerregiment 1 LAH

What about the other Tiger ?....

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-koloriertNac...=item43be7af97c

"July 1944" and no turret number...hmmm ? verwirrt

PS : On the discharge paper the guy's name appears to be Fritz HITZ.

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie 1./ SS101 Tiger II
Yann JOUAULT

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09.07.2013 12:20 Forum: sSSPzAbt.101

The yellow numbers for the re-equipped 1./SS101 in August/Sept. 1944 in France appear to have been based mostly on a few British photos of "104" taken in the field and in bright sunshine, making the turret numbers look like one solid and very pale tone.
All profiles I'm aware of have used this combination.
Later photos of 104 (and close up pics of other mounts like 113, 133 etc) show that :
a- the numbers had a pale (no doubt white) outline
b- the inner colour was probably not pale enough to be yellow.

NB : Only one exception found so far is Tiger 123 which had thinner turret numbers with no apparent outlines, possibly painted in yellow indeed;

FWIW I see no reason to think the inner colour would have been any different from the Normandy period and would rather favour a medium green / light green with white outline.

As I do not recall seeing any profile / ref. showing or suggesting the above combination (green and white) for the re-equipped 1.Kp, I wonder why the people at Shrivenham painted the numbers of 104 in a light green / white outline combination before this Tiger was moved to Bovvy...could it be they had access to original notes made when 104 was recovered and shipped back to the UK ?
It would be interesting to know for sure as short of period colour photos of 104 in its original livery, this could be the best confirmation we could get that the 1./SS101 had indeed turret numbers painted in green and white...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGcn-L9v_Qw&hl=en-GB&gl=GB

In the meantime, there's little doubt such yellow numbers will continue to appear in artist's and author's profiles, just like Turk's Tiger 101 in Berlin will appear in books as "100" for a good while still...

Thema: Ergänzung SS 503 Tiger II
Yann JOUAULT

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06.06.2013 22:29 Forum: sSSPzAbt.103/503

another great shot
thanks for posting this, Mario.

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie 1./ SS101 Tiger II
Yann JOUAULT

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15.05.2013 19:29 Forum: sSSPzAbt.101

Comparisons made with another pic of this (re-equipped) 1.Kp/SS101 Tiger II) / Saumur Tiger leave no doubt as to its Unit :



and that it is now in Saumur Museum.

It is said to have been used by the French in the St-Nazaire pocket, along with other captured German tanks (Saumur's Tiger I, Panthers, Pz IVs etc).

Parts of the Zimmerit appears to be original still :



It's interesting to note it had the cover for the turret fan as well as transport tracks still fitted when captured.
So possibly it had broken down upon arrival in France and was never repaired and left at the train station, or it was meant to be sent back to Germany...?

In the photo the French have already cut out areas in the Zim where the number and BK were painted.
Possibly the insignia was erased too (but the patch remains).

NB : although Bruno Renoult suggested the Saumur Tiger II was 123 of 1.Kp/SS101, this proves it cannot be. There was always some contradiction in Bruno's book in that it features photos of relics from Tiger II 123 that were left behind in the field anyway.

Possible ID for this Tiger are :
114, 122, 131, 132 and 134....

I'm afraid this is all I know at present.

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie 1./ SS101 Tiger II
Yann JOUAULT

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15.05.2013 14:57 Forum: sSSPzAbt.101

It is indeed the 1.Kp /SS101 Tiger II that was captured intact by the French, now in Saumur.
NB : See the missing bottom track hanger on the LHS of the turret in the photo, as well as ion the Saumur TII :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5p3KCli6YM

Thema: Ergänzung 3.Kp/503 France 1944
Yann JOUAULT

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14.05.2013 19:30 Forum: sPzAbt.503 FHH

Hallo Hartmut,

many thanks for the better scans (and to Bruno as well of course).

Good spot on the camo remnants on the "Tiger signpost" : I agree it must be 324. The scheme on the barrel had almost me sold on it but Mario's clearer image makes it a definite ID.

Re the Marines Tiger I quite like your reasoning (Production turret for Zugführern etc) and 321 is indeed a probable candidate.
I had it with 333 as another possible contender as well but it's just a shame we don't have any more views to make comparisons.

I'm not near my refs but from memory it was leutnant Koppe as Zugführer in the 2. Zug. though.
But with the usual swapping of vehicles, who knows...

ah those thin white outlines don't do us any favours... tss tss they seem to vanish way too easily !
Augen rollen Augen rollen

Thema: Unidentified Tiger II
Yann JOUAULT

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29.04.2013 20:12 Forum: Tiger zuordnen

New to me :



from :
http://altyn73.livejournal.com/260944.html

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie 507 44
Yann JOUAULT

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Stab Tiger C 26.04.2013 19:58 Forum: sPzAbt.507

New photo of Stab Tiger "C" :




Gallery size :



Taken from SteelMasters #118 - 4 page article by A. Verwicht :

Thema: One and a half new Tigers?
Yann JOUAULT

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06.04.2013 16:11 Forum: Tiger today

''es wird vermutet das Teile vom Tiger der

4.sSS PzReg LAH
2.Kompanie
(Wittmann)
Tiger Nr. 205

verbaut wurden, kann man da ansetzten bei der Suche nach Teile Spender? die 8,8er ist nicht aus Plaste..besteht aber aus 2 unterschiedlichen Komponenten..wenn man alle Tiger auflistet die in Frankreich waren wäre das schon mal ein Anfang
(vielleicht weiß das der Projektleiter selbst nicht von welchen Resten er den erschaffen hat)..''

''aber vielleicht kann hier jemand darlegen warum es nicht der 205er ist.''


It can't be Tiger 205 of 4.sSS PzReg LAH because :

- there was no Tiger 205 in 4 s.SS PzReg LAH
- 4 s.SS PzReg LAH never went to Normandy

Augen rollen

Thema: One and a half new Tigers?
Yann JOUAULT

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30.03.2013 12:28 Forum: Tiger today



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