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Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie 8.SS 42/43
Chris Brown

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18.01.2018 20:56 Forum: 8./SS-Panzerregiment 2 Das Reich

Happy that they are the same scene.

The old photo of '831' below shows the same tree as the first of the two photos in your post (slightly below and to the left of white box).




Chris

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie 8.SS 42/43
Chris Brown

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13.01.2018 00:40 Forum: 8./SS-Panzerregiment 2 Das Reich

Zitat:
Original von David Byrden
I've added this to the gallery.
Chris, can you just confirm that "813" is legible? I can't read it on this little copy.







I am confident that this is "813", the last two digits are for sure. We can see Himmler in the cupola, and recognise the entourage from other photos. Cazenave and Warnick in the book TIGER! identify it as "813" too.


And this pair seem to be taken moments apart, but the angle of the loader's hatch confirms it:



Chris, you suggested this one to me as "821", but can you be sure that it's not "S21"? Is there a date for it?
I don't see the divisional rune on the rear wall, which makes me favour "821".



The T34 links the two photos below to the same time/place, so if we're happy that "821" is correct, the top photo must be "813".




In the foreground we see that the Tigers are operating with Pz.III's, which 8.Kp still had but s.Kp did not.


An interesting aside is that the near Pz.III appears to be numbered "813". During winter 1942/43 813 was a number assigned to a Pz.III not a Tiger, Tiger "813" has just received its new number but maybe the Pz.III's had yet to be re-numbered?






This one is obviously the same scene (sunlight in the same direction, both taken from an aircraft, same tank).
You point out that its cross doesn't yet have the white outline, which again points to "821" rather than "S21".



David

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie 8.SS 42/43
Chris Brown

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842 09.01.2018 21:17 Forum: 8./SS-Panzerregiment 2 Das Reich

The original ebay seller had this as '821' but I think you're right with '842'.

Here is a slightly better resolution from AMC. As well as the matches you identify, the part of the second digit in view is consistent with being a '4'.



Chris.

Thema: Unidentified Tiger I Mid-Production
Chris Brown

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08.01.2018 11:31 Forum: Tiger zuordnen

The turret is an early model and had 3 track holders on the right side, giving a build date of mid- to late April 1943. Most of May 1943's deliveries went to 502, but a few went to GD and SS regiments.

There seems to be a dark-outlined turret number, second digit '3', first digit possibly '1'. The three is flat- topped rather than rounded. This combination of features we associate with 501 and 3SS. The digits look relatively thin which is more suggestive of Totenkopf than 501, though the flat top of the '3' is longer than we would expect for either unit. We do not know of 501 on the eastern front receiving any early build models.

There is a possibility that this Tiger was rebuilt and issued to a new unit. From photographic evidence we most associate these with 501 and 502. We would expect a rebuild to have Zimmerit but cannot see it here (possibly because of photo quality). The removal of the smoke discharger brackets looks to have been relatively crude and is more suggestive of work done in the field than in a factory.

Don't think we can be sure at this stage, but if it's a rebuild its probably 501; if it's still with its original unit, 3SS is most likely, though the first digit would be '9' rather than '1'.

HTH,

Chris

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie SS PR.2
Chris Brown

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06.01.2018 21:58 Forum: Schwere Panzerkompanie SS PR.2 Das Reich

Zitat:
Original von David Byrden
Here's a matching light patch over the driver's visor on both "811" and "S13".



Confirming the sequence 822 -> 811 -> S13

David


I was about to post a photo suggesting that the front right flap's curve and dip in skirt one of '813' and 'S13' appear to match. But I can see the light patch you have identified here and another light patch slightly to the right (starts just in frame here) that confirm '811' becomes 'S13'.

Also happy on the identification of 'S11'.

Chris

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie SS PR.2
Chris Brown

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822 = 811 = S13 04.01.2018 01:32 Forum: Schwere Panzerkompanie SS PR.2 Das Reich

David possible evidence for the suggestion that '822' became '811' which became 'S13'.

The left hand flap of '822' has a dip and the outer section is bent down


This photo (which I had assumed was '813') shows the same damaged flap and a missing bolt on the front skirt.


This photo shows 'S13' with the missing bolt.


This photo of '811' shows a dip in the 3rd skirt.


This photo of 'S13' shows a dip in the 3rd skirt.


The trunnion holes in 2nd and 5th photos suggest a match, the only slight doubt is that the second photo does not suggest a dip in skirt 3.

Thoughts?

Chris

Thema: Photo locations / Standort der Bilder
Chris Brown

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04.01.2018 00:05 Forum: sPzAbt.504

Thanks for the info David. That location just north of Potassa puts them near the site of '222'.

Chris

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie SS PR.2
Chris Brown

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02.01.2018 18:57 Forum: Schwere Panzerkompanie SS PR.2 Das Reich

Zitat:
Original von David Byrden

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I'm wondering how they could possibly fill the ranks up to S15, S25 and S33 when they had only 12 non-staff Tigers.

David


Always presumed the additional numbers were only used after the 9 handovers from LAH arrived post-Zitadelle.

Chris.

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie SS PR.2
Chris Brown

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31.12.2017 22:27 Forum: Schwere Panzerkompanie SS PR.2 Das Reich

Thanks yet again David.

Agree with identification of 'S11'.

The renumbering proposal from original 8.Kp numbers to s.Kp numbers looks to be consistent with the photographic evidence. One item of note is that there is a photo showing the left hand drive wheel hub on 'S34' to be machined flat rather than cast, but this could be the result of repair/maintenance rather than an original feature.

Happy New Year.

Chris.

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie 8.SS 42/43
Chris Brown

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27.12.2017 23:58 Forum: 8./SS-Panzerregiment 2 Das Reich

Thanks David, once again well presented research to help identify the likely identity of this Tiger.

The tankers seem to have an eagle over the right breast so, being Heer rather than SS members, will be visitors rather than Tiger crew.

Chris.

Thema: Unidentified Tiger I Mid-Production
Chris Brown

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509 15.11.2017 17:44 Forum: Tiger zuordnen

Thanks John, it's new here. Over on Tigerscorner it's been identified as '102' of 509.

In the fourth post down on this link, they've identified a match to it too.

http://www.tigerscorner.ru/index.php?topic=42.5070

Chris

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie 508 Italia 1944/45
Chris Brown

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30.10.2017 21:59 Forum: sPzAbt.508

Thanks David, great work as usual. I will add these to the gallery.

Chris.

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie 8.SS 42/43
Chris Brown

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12.10.2017 21:53 Forum: 8./SS-Panzerregiment 2 Das Reich

Copy sent.

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie 502/511 1944/45
Chris Brown

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26.08.2017 22:12 Forum: sPzAbt.502/511

Thanks Michael, it will need adding to the gallery.

Chris

Thema: 3Kp 512 Wrecks
Chris Brown

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09.08.2017 10:33 Forum: Jagdtiger

Here are the three pages which Andy would like help to translate.







Thanks in anticipation,

Chris.

Thema: Unidentified Tiger I Late Production
Chris Brown

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09.08.2017 10:02 Forum: Tiger zuordnen

Thanks Evgeniy, new to me.

For that location, is it likely to have belonged to 509?

Chris.

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie 13./PR.GD
Chris Brown

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21.06.2017 09:19 Forum: 13./Panzerregiment GD

Zitat:
Original von David Byrden

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It's missing a front mudflap, which the crew solve by carving up one of their own rear mudflaps.

David


Thanks once again David.

Just to clarify, both front flaps are non-standard. Is it the left side front mudflap replaced by a carved up rear flap? The right side flap has ribs on the upper surface.

Chris.

Thema: Ergänzung s.Pz.Jg.Abt. 653
Chris Brown

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20.06.2017 23:17 Forum: Jagdtiger

Many thanks Jens.

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie 506 Tiger II 44/45
Chris Brown

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714th Tank Battalion 20.06.2017 11:54 Forum: sPzAbt.506

Another view of the Dörnholthausen Tiger.



Chris.

Link:
https://www.facebook.com/pg/lambo1962/ph...f=page_internal

Thema: Ergänzung s.Pz.Jg.Abt. 653
Chris Brown

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714th Tank Battalion 20.06.2017 11:49 Forum: Jagdtiger

From Facebook.

Match to existing gallery photos from Gmund


Any thoughts as to the identity of these next two?





Chris.

Link:
https://www.facebook.com/pg/lambo1962/ph...f=page_internal

Thema: Unidentified Tiger I Early Production
Chris Brown

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Totenkopf? 18.06.2017 11:17 Forum: Tiger zuordnen

From a post by Michail Sokolový in the Tiger Tracks group on Facebook who suggests Totenkopf at Kursk.

The field cap does seem to be SS. A newly-delivered Tiger in summer 1943 was unlikely to have KFF2 driver's binocular scope unless it had been held back from an earlier production period such as happened with Befehlstigers. Maybe its from the training grounds?

Does anyone have any suggestions as to its identity?



Chris.

Link:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=...&type=1&theater

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie 8.SS 42/43
Chris Brown

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18.06.2017 10:49 Forum: 8./SS-Panzerregiment 2 Das Reich

Thanks once again David, your input is much appreciated.

Chris.

Thema: Unidentified Tiger I 2
Chris Brown

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Rebuild - Netherlands or Harz? 14.06.2017 12:25 Forum: Tiger zuordnen

This photo has been kicking around for a few months. Location of Osterode am Harz has been suggested.




This new photo by posted by Donald Valluzzi on Facebook looks to be a match, though he thinks the location is in the Netherlands.



Any thoughts appreciated.

Chris.

Link:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=...&type=3&theater

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie 505 43/44
Chris Brown

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123? 13.06.2017 23:24 Forum: sPzAbt.505

Currently on ebay.de.

Despite the absence of horseshoe(s) on the driver's plate, the two impact marks should make this a match to '123' in the gallery photo below.





Any thoughts?

No connection with the seller.

Chris.

Link:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Org-Foto-Panzerka...TUAAOSwSzRZPsiT

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie 503 42/43
Chris Brown

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13.06.2017 23:07 Forum: sPzAbt.503 FHH

Nice new photo of '200' you have here.

Brackets mounted on the right side skirts are not unusual in 2.Kp. I have had concerns about the unknown possibly being '200' because most photos do not show Feifels or right rear flap fitted, but the combination of S-mines being present and the 3rd skirt being above the 4th should be enough to confirm the match you have found.

Cheers,

Chris

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie 507 45
Chris Brown

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200 10.06.2017 20:50 Forum: sPzAbt.507

From US 8th Armored Division veteran Paul K. Soderholm via Facebook.





Links:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/269231523148647/

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMA...FA1ZWlQZXRXX3BR

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie 502 42/43
Chris Brown

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24 07.06.2017 00:31 Forum: sPzAbt.502/511

Back in 2012, Hartmut recognised that these three photos showed the same Tiger with damage to the right hand smoke dischargers, but its number was not established. Trojca suggests it may have been '1' in early 1943.



This photo is currently on ebay.de and shows the turret number '24' in spring 1943. Note the split trim on the left hand flap.



This old ebay pic is another photo of '24' taken around the same time.



This photo from the Archive of Modern Conflict links Hartmut's earlier photos with the split trim seen on '24'. Crewman Emil Engesser is seen here and on Hartmut's middle picture.



Any more thoughts as to it's original turret number?

Chris.

Link:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-1944-Panzerk...zMAAOSwK6RZNsUG

Thema: Unidentified Tiger I Late Production
Chris Brown

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05.06.2017 20:36 Forum: Tiger zuordnen

Good call, supported by the Gerry can beside the turret bin where it would have been stowed.

Chris

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie 503 42/43
Chris Brown

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05.06.2017 11:52 Forum: sPzAbt.503 FHH

Many thanks, added to the gallery.

Chris.

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie 509 43/44
Chris Brown

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Befehlswagen? 04.06.2017 21:22 Forum: sPzAbt.509

From a trawl of old photos of the Tiger Tracks group on Facebook where 509 is the suggested owner, based on the camo and turret number style.



There looks to be an aerial mounted on the turret roof, making this a Befehlstiger, which would be inconsistent with the likely 3-digit turret number.

Any thoughts?

Chris

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie 508 Italia 1944/45
Chris Brown

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04.06.2017 21:14 Forum: sPzAbt.508

From the diary of Private Charles 'Chick' Bruns US 3rd Infantry Division. Match to existing gallery unknown, identified by Robert Allen Dail Jr on Facebook.



Chris

Link:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=...&type=3&theater

Thema: Unidentified Tiger I Late Production
Chris Brown

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123 04.06.2017 21:08 Forum: Tiger zuordnen

Preview of upcoming volume 21 from the Panzerwrecks website.

I'm thinking SS102, anyone any thoughts?



Chris.

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie 502 42/43
Chris Brown

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03.06.2017 22:28 Forum: sPzAbt.502/511

Nice sharp images. Many thanks.

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie Panzerregiment Bäke/503 bis Mai 1944
Chris Brown

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21.05.2017 22:06 Forum: sPzAbt.503 FHH

Great spot.

Many thanks,

Chris.

Thema: Unidentified Tiger I 2
Chris Brown

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17.05.2017 22:19 Forum: Tiger zuordnen

Hi John,

No doubt this is a Tiger I turret. The guy on the floor could be Hungarian which may give a clue as to its origins.

HTH,

Chris.

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie 508 Italia 1944/45
Chris Brown

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Anzio 15.05.2017 22:31 Forum: sPzAbt.508

I think this comes from one of the Panzerwrecks books...



Chris.

Link:

https://mulpix.com/post/1384513982693843901.html

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie 508 Italia 1944/45
Chris Brown

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13.05.2017 22:30 Forum: sPzAbt.508

Thanks Allen, more good photos from facebook.

If the second photo is the Frascati Tiger, then this is an earlier view before it's been moved to the side of the road.

Cheers,

Chris.

Thema: Unidentified Tiger II
Chris Brown

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11.05.2017 08:04 Forum: Tiger zuordnen

Many thanks

Thema: Unidentified Tiger II
Chris Brown

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Fake News? 10.05.2017 11:24 Forum: Tiger zuordnen

Anyone have any thoughts on this photo from Tumblr. via Pinterest?



Chris

Link:
https://uk.pinterest.com/pin/393361348693503118/

Thema: Ergänzung zur Gallerie 506 Tiger II 44/45
Chris Brown

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Freialdenhoven 10.05.2017 09:40 Forum: sPzAbt.506

From a post by Alan Buchan on Facebook. Match to existing gallery photos of Freialdenhoven.



Chris.

Link:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=...&type=3&theater

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